The Quest for an iPhone To-do App

I'm on a quest for new Personal Information Management (PIM) apps! Recently I moved to an iPhone from a decade-long stint with the Palm OS. My husband's Treo 650 went into an infinite reset loop and we were ready to renew our AT&T contract. It was time for a new phone, we had to stay with AT&T (only wireless service that will work in our house), and neither of us wanted a Centro (only PalmOS choice), so it was time to move onto another platform. I've been ready for an iPhone for a long time (already had an iPod Touch), but had hesitated because of the whole movement-of-10-years-of-data I'd be faced with. I also do not want to be faced with carrying two devices--the iPhone is too powerful to use for just a phone. So I'm saying goodbye to my T5 and hello to iPhone.

My current quest is for a good to-do app. Cost is not a factor, except for the fact that I don't want to buy a whole bunch of apps to find the perfect one. I don't mind buying a few, but since the number of to-do apps on the AppStore is numerous, buying and trying all of them is not possible and crazy!

I also have a unique computer hardware situation. My main desktop is Linux. I have a Macbook (the machine I have set up to sync my iPhone infrequently) and also a laptop with Windows, but I do not want to dig them out on a daily basis. I do not really need to sync, except from an input or archival standpoint. I do not plan to use my to-do list on my computer, but on my iPhone. I have a lot of old to-do's on my T5, so starting from scratch would be tough, but since I probably need to revisit a lot of my tasks, being able to transfer those to the iPhone is a plus, not a must-have.

I'm an old school time management type. I started with a Franklin Planner (and methodology), have had Covey seminars, but have been told I probably do a lot of organizing using the GTD methods without realizing it. My system works well for me, so I have no desire to learn a new method. I'm merely looking for a new tool.

That said, I've started a spreadsheet of to-do apps (only 11 listed so far--I did a quick search on AppShopper for 'todo'), with key features listed. I plan to expand on this data as I continue my quest. (Hopefully my quest will be short, but in the meantime, pen and paper will have to suffice.) If a cell is not filled in, either that feature is not included, or it wasn't possible to tell from the description.

I'm inviting my readers and any iPhone to-do list developers to contact me and make suggestions of apps I'm missing, help fill out my spreadsheet with their experiences, and offer any other comments and insight. Otherwise, going forward, I plan to search on to-do keywords to suss out the apps available and slowly add them to the list. I hope to try as many of the "lite" versions as I can. If it makes sense to write a separate review, I will.

My suggestions to developers--try to better highlight your feature list. Many descriptions I've looked at are hard to validate that basic to-do list functionality exists. Descriptions explain why you need a to-do list (I think if you are looking for a to-do list, you know why you need it), or include blurbs from reviews, which are fine, but shouldn't be your only description.

Things I want to know:
1) Can I organize into categories or projects set by me? (Tags might suffice.)
2) Can I set importance, priority, or weights to the tasks? i.e. 1-2-3, A-B-C, red-yellow-green, urgent-required-someday... Are they visually coded (color, etc)?
3) Can I set a due date (real or artificial to move it up the list)?
4) Can I set an alarm?
5) Can I set recurring tasks?
6) Can I sort and by what? (i.e. Date, Project, Priority...)
7) Can I select what I want to work on today, without setting artificial due dates or priorities? (a focus list?)

Many of my requirements are influenced by the Palm PIM to-do app, which was adequate but missing many features. In the past, we had hoped to write a better to-do list for Palm ourselves, but it never was a priority. I want to be able to list my tasks by project, but then complete them by sequence. Since I multi-task, this is crucial.

So, please take a look at what I've started and help me fill in the data. I will share what I learn and not only will I find a suitable to-do list, but perhaps the information will help you, too. Thanks!

UPDATE: 5/5/09
I think I found it!! Just watched the video of the update to Todo 2.0 by Appigo. It's weird, but they hit on pretty much all my points with this update--what I wanted to have the app do. I just bought it ($9.99 is cheap--I'm used to Palm pricing). I'm going to play with it and hope to provide a review here after test driving it for a while. But I'm very optimistic that it will do what I need it to do. (No pun intended.) You can buy it here: Todo

UPDATE 8/16/09
Stop the presses! Just had a panic moment with Todo. I upgraded via my iPhone, which is the way I always upgrade, since I don't connect with our Mac everyday. My everyday machine uses Linux, which is incompatible with iTunes. I had sync set up with Toodledo, but did not realize that subtasks for projects and shopping type lists were not sync'd. I wasn't worried because these were on my iPhone anyhow. However, the recent update to Todo erased all my subtasks and sublists. I had done a whole set of brainstorming for promotion of Date Wheel, for example. I panicked. I checked out Appigo's FAQ's on their website and their first suggestion was to "backup before upgrading" via iTunes. Nice to know, after the fact. (Add heavy sarcasm here.) Lucky for me, we had been connecting my iPhone to our Macbook frequently lately, since we were doing debug on Date Wheel for iPhone, so my apps had been backed up at least a week ago (when we were done and submitted Date Wheel). However, in the meantime, I had planned out September in my calendar today, doing a lot of clean-up work, plus I had entered a few passwords into eWallet. I'm trying to keep paperless, so I did not note these items elsewhere. So, doing the backup erased all this data. My point being, having to choose which data you are going to lose permanently is unacceptable. So, now I have to take time to enter all the todo's I'd entered in Todo, into a spreadsheet on my computer before I delete my $9.99 app that is no longer of use to me. Sorry Appigo, but data is too important for me to risk losing. Otherwise it was a great app that met my needs, even with a few bugs (which I had noted, but lost in my update). So much for getting anything done today. Complete train derailment....

UPDATE 8/26/09
I found out that some pics that I had taken with my iPhone were also deleted when I did the backup. If I had realized they were not sync'd or that they would be lost, at least I could have emailed the important ones to myself. My daughter asked me to take a picture of her name up on the board for belt promotion in her karate class and that was one of the pictures lost. Very disappointed little girl and frustrated mom. I am going to delete Todo as soon as I am able to transfer my tasks to a new app. I do NOT recommend this app.

Comments

ignoring your requirements, I suggest...

In the past, I had mostly the same requirements that you list. In any app I ever used, there was always too much overhead. Tagging, priority, contexts, etc. All drove me from one app to another. Until I found something that actually worked for me. It might not be for you -- and please just skip over this if not appropriate ... but check out Mark Forster's new "AutoFocus" system. It can be implemented in various electronic systems, or with paper. It's new and still being refined, but it really feels good. http://tr.im/autofocus

---slothbear

I agree, simple is best

I'm using an even simpler system along the lines of Autofocus, in conjunction with a very basic 99 cents iPhone app called To-Do by Tapku.

I find myself getting bogged down by more complicated applications and systems.

-- lazyboy

todo

"Lifebalance" is awesome (llamagraphics.com). Does most everything but the alarms. I use it on palm, but it's on the iphone too.

ToDo by Appigo

I recommend an app called ToDo (surprisingly enough) by Appigo (www.appigo.com/todo).

It's a full featured and mature ToDo application that will stand alone on the iPhone. It can be synchronized with Remember the Milk or Toodledo, so you can use it on any desktop OS. They also offer the ability to sync with Mac via Appigo Sync, and are promising the ability to sync with MS Outlook.

Plus, one of the bigger benefits for me is the ability to share tasks via e-mail, or export to Notebook (www.appigo.com/notebook), another of their iPhone programs.

Another option that is purely web based is Life Tick (www.lifetick.com). They have a free version for you to try out and, if you like it, a subscription version. I've been trying it out and it seems to work very well on the iPhone. The only problem is that there is no 'offline' version. So, if you're out-and-about and your carrier goes down ... you have no access to your tasks.

Hope this helps.

TO DOs ON THE IPHONE

Try the APP called "CalTodo" and download the newest server, CalToDo (1.3) and you can use the TODO LIST ON ICAL and APPLE MAIL that sync by themselves on your apple computer. You can then sync the to do list to your phone thru WIFI.
HERE is the website (but be sure to use the newest server software that is not listed there)
http://web.me.com/dominik.pich/EN/CalTodo.html
It works great and the newest update is making it even better.
Now the iphone syncs TO DO's with this program.

mjdenes@aol.com

Things

I highly recommend Things for OS X and the iPhone. It has really improved my productivity and the best part is that it has a remarkably simple interface.

http://culturedcode.com/things/

Ben

Great Resource For Me

Im on my way to getting an iPhone soon, in the mean time I can gather information and research all the things that I might want to add to my phone. Im guessing theres going to be plenty of room to add tons of stuff?

Things continue to advance every day, so as I keep up to date with my email marketing list, I also want to do the same with my cell phones that I am using.

Why can't they just add To Do to ical?!?!

I've been annoyed by this for some time. I've found that my iphone is by far the best $200+ I've spent and hate to complain- but give me a break- iCal has a To Do list feature on the computer- why does it not have the capability on the iPhone? It makes using the feature, for me, pointless.

Since I am a To Do list kinda gal, I've also been looking for something to use on my iphone that will also come up on my computer. Just so you know, the only one I see that supposedly sincs sounds like it has huge problems- the To Do for $9.99 on your list. Yikes, I don't think I'll be trying that one anytime soon- check out the reviews for yourself!

In the meantime, I've downloaded the free To Do's by AustinBull Software. So far I like it, but it does not have the sinc feature. Here's to the next iphone update adding the To Do list from ical so we can all move on.
Thanks for all your research, btw, it was a lot of help!

Yes, duh!?! Can't tthey add

Yes, duh!?!
Can't tthey add it to Cal app?

Say what you want about the Palm Treo, BUT I made a list and forgot about it til it reminded me with an alarm. Recharge cel number, or buy sister b-day gift.
You have got to be kidding if Apple can't do that?
Maybe I will have to get a Blackberry?

To Do apps

try www.toodledo.com

Great set of functions, and API and other connections -

or for pure iphone and web try Remember the Milk

:-)

Things

One terrific To-do app not mentioned here is "Things" by Cultured Code. I've been using it since the release of 2.0 and it has worked great.

Getting Dreams Done

While it might not be a traditional "to-do" app, Getting Dreams Done http://gettingdreamsdone.com has powerful recurring task features and organizes your tasks around big goals in your life.

iPhone App suggestion

You should check out http://www.appreview.com to find reviews or certain types of apps that you are seeking. It's a great way to discover useful new apps that people can vouch for.
-Jack

"To do" is the best

"To do" is the best alternative to the things you are looking for.

Version for the Blackberry

Has anyone found a similar product for those of us who are incredibly unhip and still use a Blackberry instead of an iPhone? :-)

Why ?

Why are you still using a Blackberry ???

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